British court rules couple too Christian to care for kids
March 1st, 2011
How often have we all heard pro same-sex so-called ‘marriage’ folks vehemently insist that Christians will not have to be politically or socially marginalized for them to get their way.
And yet this is happening in Great Britain where, if I’m not mistaken, same-sex ‘marriage’ isn’t even recognized yet – just civil unions.
On another site, this story was aptely titled Christianity isn’t dying, it’s being eradicated.
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Oh, Leland. This has nothing to do with SSM and all to do with putting children in an household where they could potentially face verbal and emotional abuse.
Course, if you feel it’s perfectly OK for foster parents to emotionally scar and berate their children …… I personally consider that child abuse.
The court didn’t rule they were too christian, but too hateful. Oh, ok, it ruled they were too christian!
The Klan have their biblical reasons to hate people of color. I hope all christians respect their religious beliefs.
Yep – this is how Christians will be treated in the Brave New World of SSM unless the sheeple wake up.
@jackie
“Yep – this is how Christians will be treated in the Brave New World of SSM unless the sheeple wake up.”
Only if they keep repeating their hate filled views on innocent children.
The National Minimum Standards for Fostering Services in the UK require that “the fostering service ensures that children and young people, are provided with foster care services which value diversity and promote equality.” But another part of the same law states, another part of the law says that agencies are required to “carefully match” children with “carers capable of meeting her/his assessed needs.”
Mr and Mrs Johns were interested in being foster parents for 5-10 year olds. Surely for the vast majority of 5-10 year olds in foster care, the Johns’ views on sexuality would be completely irrelevant, and have no bearing at all on their ability to meet the child’s needs.
The Johns’ are being excluded because they are not right-thinking enough. and the UK has a shortage of 10,000 foster families.
Excluding these people can’t possibly be in the interests of children.
[The Johns’ are being excluded because they are not right-thinking enough. and the UK has a shortage of 10,000 foster families.
Excluding these people can’t possibly be in the interests of children.]
Yet excluding gay foster parents is just fine. Even though those states are likely short of foster parents too. Nebraska, Utah, Arkansas and North Dakota forbid gay foster parents – perhaps you could throw your weight and the prestige of your organization in their corner and save some American children.
Excluding these people can’t possibly be in the interests of children.
@Mark Oh, so if you teach your children that homosexuality is a wrong behavior, that is abuse? No, putting them in a household without a father and a mother and where they will have no idea what real human sexuality is – that would be abuse.
@Sean I know, it is always “hateful” to speak the truth. As I have said before, truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth. Call a belief hateful and you marginalize the debate.
@Bob Barnes One has to twist the Bible out of context and all semblance of meaning in order to justify racism. There is nothing Christian about the Klan.
@Mark It is truth, not “hate.” It is you who hate Christians because they point the truth out to you.
Someone pointed out recently that, for the longest time, the sex radicals argued that there are a lot orphaned, abused, and/or neglected children who need safe and loving homes, and that it would be so much better to put them in the care of same-sex couples than leave them in less than ideal circumstance. But, as it turns out, they apparently don’t feel that way at all about allowing children to be exposed (under any circumstances) to the influence of those insidious Bible-thumping Christians, huh?
“I know, it is always “hateful” to speak the truth. As I have said before, truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth. Call a belief hateful and you marginalize the debate.”
I disagree. The truth can be painful to hear or read, but it doesn’t have to be hateful. When false beliefs based on some religious text are used to hurt people, such hate must be called out. You don’t get a pass because you hide behind some fairy tale belief system.
“they apparently don’t feel that way at all about allowing children to be exposed (under any circumstances) to the influence of those insidious Bible-thumping Christians, huh?”
So what is supposed to happen to the gay child placed in the hateful Christian home? What if the family said it hated Jews, and the it was later learned that the adoptive child came from Jewish ancestry?
I think the answer is, Christians need to stop fomenting hatred and disapproval of gay people (or Jews, or any other group). When that happens, the world will be a much better place, and Christians will again be safe for adoption.
@Glenn E. Chatfield
“Oh, so if you teach your children that homosexuality is a wrong behavior, that is abuse?”
Yes, you FINALLY got something right!
@Glenn E. Chatfield
“It is truth, not “hate.” It is you who hate Christians because they point the truth out to you.”
No, it’s not truth and that’s why it’s hate. And I do not hate true Christians, just those who claim to be “christian” and attempt to force their wring views on everyone else. I like true Christians, in fact, I am one, thank you.
@Sean So my belief is false but yours isn’t. Do you have a particular moral standard to appeal to? No, the truth is that homosexuality is a perverse use of the human body, is a misuse of human sexuality. And saying that is not hateful.
@Sean Nobody said anything about hating homophiles. But if someone says it is wrong, then homophiles have to claim it’s hate in order to force their agenda. It is NOT hate to say a sexual behavior is wrong. Do you you think pedophilia is wrong? I hope so. So do you then hate pedophiles?
@Sean Oh, and we don’t foment hatred of gay people. We only say that homosexuality is wrong and should not be given state sanction. That is not fomenting hate.
@Mark No Mark, abuse is teaching children that perversion is right and proper. Abuse is indoctrinating children to think homosexual behavior is something good and wholesome.
@Mark So if something isn’t true in your book, it therefore has to be hate? Talk about a lack of logic and common sense! If I happened to believe that 2+2=5, in your book that would be hate because it isn’t true. You are really showing you ignorance.
But it IS true that same-sex behavior is wrong in God’s eye, and no TRUE Christian would deny that. A person claiming to be Christian and yet worships a god who says homosexual behavior is okay is not worship the God of the Bible, and is therefore a idolater and not a Christian.
And the only people forcing their views are the homosexualists – they use the force of law to either agree with them or be punished severely. I see no Christians doing any of that.
@Glenn E. Chatfield
“No Mark, abuse is teaching children that perversion is right and proper. Abuse is indoctrinating children to think homosexual behavior is something good and wholesome.”
Wrong (as always). Homosexuality is a NORMAL (repeat, NORMAL) sexual orientation. It is just as good and wholesome as the other two sexual orientations. So, yes, it is abuse to lie to children and call this NATURAL and NORMAL orientation a perversion.
Honestly, Glenn, you really need to read the studies that show that those who are most repulsed by homosexuals have a very high same sex attraction.
@Glenn E. Chatfield
“If I happened to believe that 2+2=5, in your book that would be hate because it isn’t true. ”
No, I would just call you ignorant or too lazy to learn. But, I guess that does apply to your lack of understanding and compassion for homosexuals.
“But it IS true that same-sex behavior is wrong in God’s eye, and no TRUE Christian would deny that.”
LOL, if a TRUE Christian walked up to you, you’d probably ignore them. You can’t recognize a Christian to (literally) save your soul.
“And the only people forcing their views are the homosexualists – they use the force of law to either agree with them or be punished severely. I see no Christians doing any of that.”
Ignorance of truth is NOT what Jesus taught us. It is the christianists who are denying gays and lesbians their equal GUARANTEED civil rights. Of course, when the christianists are found wrong by the courts (as they always are) they assume a victim posture and whine, scream and stamp their feet.
Here’s a nice little article for you to read:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phil-zuckerman/why-evangelicals-hate-jes_b_830237.html?view=print
@Mark
There are a lot of problems with the gloss of your article’s author.
Here is just one:
“Jesus was very clear that the pursuit of wealth was inimical to the Kingdom of God, that the rich are to be condemned, and that to be a follower of Him means to give one’s money to the poor. ”
Do you see the problem with using this statement to advocate welfare, food stamps, etc?
Do you know which groups give the most of THEIR OWN money to the poor?
@Ruth
“Do you see the problem with using this statement to advocate welfare, food stamps, etc?”
Frankly, I don’t, would you care to elaborate?
Mark, did you not read the last sentence in Ruth’s earlier comment?
“Do you know which groups give the most of THEIR OWN money to the poor?”