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So Planned ‘Parenthood’ Clinics Are Not the Only Abortion Mills With Absolutely No Moral or Ethical Scruples…

March 1st, 2011

Abortion Centers in Texas Evade Laws, Dump Records and Waste:
The evidence we uncovered of illegal activity reveals a systemic problem throughout Texas that is not confined to one particular clinic or group of clinics… These violations endanger the heath of women, violate the rights of women to be informed and have their medical records protected, and present health hazards to the general public.

WHY are we still allowing our taxes to be used to fund this monstrous industry???

  1. Mont D. Law
    March 2nd, 2011 at 13:55 | #1

    [WHY are we still allowing our taxes to be used to fund this monstrous industry???]

    Are taxes funding the clinics listed in the article? Or are you equating these private clinics with Planned Parenthood? Which by the way doesn’t receive taxpayer funding for abortion.

  2. Mark
    March 2nd, 2011 at 14:31 | #2

    Uh, where is this story does it say these are tax supported facilities? Secondly, the information comes from an anti-choice group – nothing has been confirmed, no charges have been brought, noone arrested (per the article) so this is merely hearsay.

  3. Sean
    March 2nd, 2011 at 15:26 | #3

    It’s not hearsay, Mark, it’s smear tactics. That’s the new weapon of choice for the chrsitianists.

  4. Kristina
    March 2nd, 2011 at 15:53 | #4

    Mark is a Christian, too, you know.

  5. Mark
    March 2nd, 2011 at 17:28 | #5

    @Kristina
    “Mark is a Christian, too, you know.”

    A Christian, yes, but not a christianist.

  6. Kristina
    March 2nd, 2011 at 18:42 | #6

    What is a christianist, then?

  7. nerdygirl
    March 2nd, 2011 at 20:58 | #7

    This article has no supporting information. Bad form.

    Also, any youth group that calls themselves “Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust” is far too obtuse to be of any practical good.

  8. Ginny
    March 2nd, 2011 at 21:11 | #8

    @Kristina

    A christianist is apparently a Christian who disagrees with you.

  9. Kristina
    March 2nd, 2011 at 21:18 | #9

    That certainly must be it, as a search on the word brings back nothing. I figured it must be a made up word by Sean, and Mark is using it as though it bears some sort of distinction from his religious beliefs in order to stay on Sean’s good side. Convenient. I’d like to start making up words, too! I noticed Mark didn’t define it for me, but then, how can he? It’s not his word! He shouldn’t try using it in a sentence then.

  10. Ginny
    March 2nd, 2011 at 21:29 | #10

    @Mark

    Uh, where is this story does it say these are tax supported facilities?

    True, the article doesn’t say which clinics are involved. They might include PP; they might be tax-supported. We don’t know that they do–but we also don’t know that they don’t.

    …nothing has been confirmed

    The group has evidence, including documents (medical records) and photographs, that it is turning over to the Attorney General.

    …no charges have been brought, noone arrested (per the article)

    Since the evidence is only just now being turned in to the authorities, of course there aren’t any charges or arrests yet. It’s just too soon for a decision like that to have been made. We’ll have to wait a few weeks (or even months) to find out if the AG deems the evidence sufficient for action. But to say now “Oh, there are no arrests, therefore this story is just hearsay” is meaningless.

  11. Mark
    March 3rd, 2011 at 07:15 | #11

    @Kristina
    “What is a christianist, then?”

    A christianist is a person who feels their views trump all others, that any amount of violence is justified to get what they want, that noone’s rights are protected if it goes against their beliefs, and that the US should be turned into a Christian theocracy eliminating all rights for people who do not bow down to their specific beliefs. Questioning their beliefs brings out anger and claims of victimization and suppression of free speech but they have no problem with shouting down anyone they disagree with. They feel they do not need to obey any laws if it goes against their beliefs but hold everyone else accountable to laws even if they are unconstitutional.

  12. Mark
    March 3rd, 2011 at 07:17 | #12

    @Ginny
    “Since the evidence is only just now being turned in to the authorities, of course there aren’t any charges or arrests yet. It’s just too soon for a decision like that to have been made. We’ll have to wait a few weeks (or even months) to find out if the AG deems the evidence sufficient for action. But to say now “Oh, there are no arrests, therefore this story is just hearsay” is meaningless.”

    I see, so you support accusation and rumors. We should all get worked up over the “claims” of a group. Nice. No reason for any proof or actual data to be present. If someone says it, we should follow along like sheep. Go ahead, Ginny. For me, I’ll continue to use my mind and think for myself.

  13. March 3rd, 2011 at 20:35 | #13

    Mark, your last comment to Ginny is really un-called for. Waiting for the Attorney General to study the evidence is entirely appropriate in a law-abiding society.
    Why are you so eager to dismiss Operation Rescue’s evidence? Have you personally reviewed all the evidence? Why are you so sure that the clinic(s) in this story are completely innocent? Is there anything you would be willing to accept as proof that maybe, just maybe, somewhere an abortion clinic has done something in its financial interest that wasn’t in the best interests of the clients?

  14. Mark
    March 3rd, 2011 at 20:42 | #14

    @Jennifer Roback Morse
    “Why are you so eager to dismiss Operation Rescue’s evidence?”
    And why are you so quick to accept it (sight unseen)?

    “Have you personally reviewed all the evidence?”
    No, because, apparently, it’s not available.

    “Why are you so sure that the clinic(s) in this story are completely innocent?”
    Never said that. But why are you so convinced the clinics are guilty?

    “Is there anything you would be willing to accept as proof that maybe, just maybe, somewhere an abortion clinic has done something in its financial interest that wasn’t in the best interests of the clients?”
    Of course, but unless I can see the actual evidence, I would NEVER take the word of an organization whose sole purpose is to deny women their right to choose.

    And, if Operation Rescue turns out to, er, be over stating it’s findings, will you be willing to print a retraction?

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